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The inflation of “cloud seven” and the whole six yards.

Yale law librarian Fred R. Shapiro is editor of the Yale Book of Quotations.

20 comments

  • Bonnie Taylor-Blake, 9:31pm February 01 2013 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    "Anyone else bothered by that gap between the 1921 6-yards entry and the 9-yards citations from the second half of the 1950s?"

    That apparent gap isn't difficult to explain, I think. "The whole X yards" was an idiom that existed predominantly in oral form in the first half of the 20th century. It was used in informal settings, apparently in and around the southern Appalachians, and likely was infrequently captured in print. That we haven't yet found printed examples from 1922 to 1955 doesn't mean that the expression went underground during this period; it just means that printed examples of its usage are very, very difficult to find, at least at the moment.

    What is the relevance of the observation that no sportswriters used "the whole nine yards" when referring to Ralph Boston's 27-foot jump in 1961? We now do know that at least a couple examples (from Kentucky) of "the whole nine yards" preceded Boston's 1961 feat. Further, there is absolutely no evidence that the idiom "was in at least common journalistic usage as 'whole 9 yards' by c.1960." Given the expression's apparent early regional restriction and its rare appearance in the popular press by 1961, the year of Boston's 27-foot jump, I think it's no puzzle that that we don't see sportwriters making use of "the whole nine yards" to describe Boston's accomplishment.

  • 7:27pm January 21 2013 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    Anyone else bothered by that gap between the 1921 6-yards entry and the 9-yards citations from the second half of the 1950s? Did this phrase go underground for a generation? Why did it re-emerge and go mainstream in the 1960s? And if it had re-emerged and was in at least common journalistic usage as "whole 9 yards" by c.1960 it leaves untouched one of the puzzles from the search for the origin of this phrase. Why did not a single sports journalist make use of it when Ralph Boston became the first person to jump 27 feet?

  • 7:48am January 12 2013 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    I dont know if it is related at all to this but in south India there is a special saree (the common dress worn by women in this part of the world) which is referred to as the Nine Yards Saree. It is made by some very gifted weavers in certain parts of South India, especislly in the state of Maharashtra.

  • 1:39pm January 02 2013 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    I too consider it *extremely* plausible that the phrase was originally associated with the Indian sari. As someone mentioned, "Indian women have been using nine yards of "sari" as a standard dress. But a modern Indian woman uses only six yards for the same." But it's not just modern Indian women. While most types of saris are traditionally 9 yards, Banarasi saris (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banarasi_saris) in particular have always been 6 yards in length. Coincidence? I think not!

  • 2:37pm January 01 2013 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    Are the commenters here ignoring the point of the article? Most are still trying to cement (see what I did there) the nine yard version, when the researchers have found earlier usage of the phrase using six instead.

  • 11:54am December 31 2012 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    "The whole nine yards" stems from German folklore. Specifically in description of a "Giant." A Giant was described in popular German and English ballads as having "three spans [yards] between [eye]brows, and three yards between shoulders. 3 X 3 is nine; therefore, the "whole nine yards" to be a true Giant.
    See Child, Francis James. "The English and Popular Ballads." Vol.I p.332, & Vol.II p.394.

  • 4:26am December 31 2012 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    Indian women have been using nine yards of "sari" as a standard dress. But a modern Indian woman uses only six yards for the same.

  • 1:21am December 31 2012 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    I was told by a 'Brit' friend that it was similar to "dressed to the nines" or using a nine yard bolt of cloth to make a piece of clothing. . .
    Barry-Maryland. . .

  • 9:51pm December 30 2012 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    Growing up in New England, I always thought, as Jonathan writes above, that the phrase referred to using the whole nine yards of sail -- unfurling ALL of them to increase speed and power. Tessa D.

  • 8:55pm December 30 2012 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    Well I heard it was the length of the 1940 RAF Spitfire & Hurricane .303cal machine-gun ammo belts in Battle of Britian WW2, and the saying came from the pilots sitting on Jerry's tail and giving the enemy plane "the whole 9 yards" from 8 guns, until it fell out of the sky. Tech Specs/length of belt/divided by Browning Mk11 rate of fire.......possible????

  • 5:32pm December 30 2012 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    Oops, read "3 millennia" instead of "3 centuries" in my previous comment!

  • 5:03pm December 30 2012 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    We Indian women have been wearing 9-yard sarees (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sari) for almost 3 centuries now, so I'm pretty sure it must have been added to the language by the British, just like all the other words like pyjama and so forth.

  • 2:57pm December 30 2012 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    Although I cannot cite a source, I always have believed that the phrase "the whole 9 yards" comes from the era of sail power, when the captain could increase the speed by his ship by unfurling all of his sails, akin to putting the ship in overdrive. Jonathan

  • 10:57am December 30 2012 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    it is evident that at this point we have gotten less than 'the whole nine yards' on this subject. Maybe six or seven???

  • 10:45am December 30 2012 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    I always assumed it was a football reference!

  • 8:22am December 30 2012 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    I always assumed it was the amount of material that some garment required, but I never had an idea what that might be. I do know that since shortly after I heard the phrase, I've said, "The whole nine yards does you no good when it's fourth-and-10."

  • 8:13am December 30 2012 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    What's wrong with you people? Everyone know a cement truck holds nine cubic
    yards...

  • 9:04pm December 29 2012 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    Regarding the baseball reference, six yards is 18 feet, the diameter of a pitching mound. Possibly a coincidence, but curious.

  • 11:55pm December 28 2012 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    Royal funerals in the olden days in England allowed varying yards of black cloth for different ranks. Bishops and barons and some others got 9 yards. Others got more or less based on the rank. You can read about this by doing a google book search on something like

    funeral knight cloth 9 yards

    I can see someone saying "Baron Beebe gets the whole 9 yards."

  • 4:02pm December 27 2012 | Ico_flag Flag as inappropriate

    How long is the column-total for a page of newspaper? if it's 24 inches tall and there are 9 columns in a page... then the page would have six column-yards of text... maybe? CharlieD

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