Comment on this article
New Shepherd in Town
September/October 2009
by Tim Townsend '04MAR
In June, Geoffrey Black '72MAR became the first African
American to be elected general minister and president of the 1.1 million-member
United Church of Christ. Descended from the Congregational churches of Puritan
New England, the UCC is one of the most socially and theologically liberal
Christian denominations in the country. Black has worked in campus ministry, in
congregations on Long Island, and in the administration of the national UCC.
Most recently, he was minister of the church’s New York Conference for nine
years.
Y: Your Christian name is pronounced "JOFF-ree." Where did
that come from?
B: My mother always pronounced my name Joffrey, although no
one else in the family did. Eventually, when I became my own person, I decided
to pronounce it the way my mother did.
Y: You’ve said the message of the UCC is that "it is
possible to be an inclusive church and still be the church." Why do you think
inclusivity and "church" are sometimes in opposition?
| |
“The church in its fullness is radically inclusive.”
|
B: In the world of church there are still many places where
the kind of inclusivity we espouse—and we haven’t achieved it yet, I want to
make that clear—is not accepted. Embracing people who are same-gender loving as
whole, valid members of the Christian church entitled to positions of
leadership and responsibility—that’s not an acceptable stance in many
communions. But the church in its fullness is radically inclusive.
Y: And race?
B: I still think race is a factor in terms of inclusivity.
For instance, many couples are not welcomed everyplace
if they are interracial. If churches can’t get over that, we are placing an
impediment to reaching people with the Gospel.
Y: The UCC is proud of its "open and affirming" stance, and
yet many African American churches have had trouble accepting members of the
LGBT community into their congregations. Will you use your position to
encourage black churches to be more welcoming?
B: Yes. Within the last five years, there have been two
major events called The Black Church in Crisis. Our national staff and some
national African American organizations brought together a considerable number
of pastors in particular to talk about issues of inclusivity. I hope we can use
similar events to foster more dialogue and more openness around this issue for
all of our churches. And I think the other issue, quite frankly, is women in
ministry. African American women rarely find those opportunities in the UCC.
And it’s particularly painful to me that more African American women do not
find opportunities to serve in African American congregations.
Y: What did you think of the UCC’s famous ad that depicted
bouncers keeping people out of a church?
B: The bouncer ad was a good ad. We were trying to get at a
younger demographic, people who went to nightclubs and had the experience of
getting turned away by bouncers. Those people could relate to the fact that not
all churches would turn them away because of the way they dressed or because of
their tattoos or their sexual orientation.
Y: Some say those ads contributed to an ugly antagonism that
has grown between conservative, largely evangelical, Protestants and liberal,
largely mainline, Protestants. Is there a way to broker peace in America's
Christian trenches?
| |
“The attraction of atheism has existed since the Enlightenment.”
|
B: I hope there is peace now. Because we are at odds on some
things does not mean we can’t work together on those things we do agree on.
There’s no reason evangelical and progressive churches can’t see themselves as
partners in feeding the hungry or liberating the poor from poverty.
Y: How do you feel Christianity should combat the rise of
the so-called new atheism?
B: The attraction of atheism has existed since the
Enlightenment, and some people are always going to embrace that philosophy.
That’s not going to go away, and it’s not something we need to combat. We need
to be authentically who we are, and engaged in the world as progressives
espousing a worldview that doesn’t abandon intellect. Intellect is a gift of
God.
Y: The UCC has a slogan, "God is still speaking." What does
God’s voice sound like?
B: You asked about scripture earlier. That "still small
voice" (1 Kings 19:12) is another scripture I find myself quoting often. The
voice of God. The voice of God may be silent. The voice of God may be a child
who reminds you what an untainted belief in God is about. The voice of God
might be expressed in a loved one who comes to you with a sincere thought of
affirmation of faith. I'm one who’s listening for the voice of God in every
conversation. I listen for it in books I read, and in music I hear.
Y: You were an assistant chaplain at Brown. So, in whom do
you have more faith—Bulldogs or Bears?
B: [Laughs] That’s hard … I didn’t go to Yale for
undergrad. I went to a school [Lincoln University] without a football team. I'm
not much of a football fan. But I am a fan of Bulldogs and Bears in the last
quarter of any Ivy League championship game.  |