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Fifteen years on the
job
November/December 2008
by Kathrin Day Lassila '81
Y: You've just
completed 15 years as president of Yale. You're the longest-serving Ivy
president. You have everyone from the college newspaper to Yale trustees
saying, we think he's the best who ever led Yale. How do you feel?
L: I feel fortunate
that I have been able to recruit so many extraordinarily able people to
leadership positions, and I am very pleased that together we have made great
progress. Yale is physically transformed; it is stronger in many academic
dimensions, and it is looking outward to the world and acting more responsibly
as a local citizen than ever before.
Y: You gave a speech in which you enumerated your
priorities and achievements over 15 years. When you first started, your
priorities were the crumbling infrastructure and the poor relationship with New
Haven. Since then, Yale has spent $3.5 billion on capital improvements. And I
recently read in the Yale Daily News an offhand reference to New Haven as "famous for its restaurants." When
I went to school here, that was not what New Haven was famous for. What led you
to put those issues first?
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"In 1993, Yale's physical plant was horrendous."
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L: It was an easy
call. In 1993, Yale's physical plant was horrendous. My predecessor had done an
inventory and found dozens of buildings with leaky roofs, and numerous other
problems. As for New Haven, a promising and popular Yale College student,
Christian Prince ['93], had been murdered on campus in the spring of 1991. The
surrounding neighborhoods had falling home prices and a high vacancy rate. A
significant fraction of the stores downtown were boarded up. We had to attend
to this; we needed our host city to be a place that attracted students and
faculty, as it does today.
Y: These were
clearly money issues. How did you go about getting the funds?
L: We had a big
budget deficit, largely because we had started a renovation program and had
taken on debt to finance it. There were plans already under way to cut expenses
and reduce the size of the faculty, and I carried them out. We squeezed the
budget pretty hard for the first five years in order to make room for the costs
of renovations and for the investments we made in New Haven, starting with the
homebuyer program [which subsidizes mortgages for Yale employees buying homes
in New Haven]. We also made it a priority to reach out to the city of New
Haven. The deans and directors at Yale all got the message that their programs
had to have a local outreach component.
Y: Then, as Yale's
capital campaign began to succeed, you started on internationalization and
science.
L: Around the turn
of the millennium, we made internationalization a very explicit objective, as
we had earlier made it a priority to reach out to New Haven. This time we asked
deans and directors to start expanding their international programs. It's no
coincidence that I entrusted both these initiatives to [Yale vice president and
secretary] Linda Lorimer ['77JD], who has been my right hand and senior counselor
since the day I was inaugurated. She founded Yale's Office of New Haven and
State Affairs in 1994 and the Office of International Affairs eight years
later.
Y: You've said that
America is parochial. In choosing to make Yale international, do you have a
larger view of academia's role?
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"Bringing foreign students to the U.S. is an investment in national security."
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L: Absolutely. What
we are doing in higher education benefits the United States by building an understanding
among future American citizens and leaders about the rest of the world. And
bringing foreign students to the United States is an investment in national security.
Either these students stay here and contribute to the strength of the nation,
or they go home, where much more often than not they become ambassadors for
American values. This is not just Yale's agenda; it is an agenda for the
nation. I delivered a speech on this subject last April.
Y: You've committed
to spend $1 billion on science infrastructure. When you came on, Yale was
already in the top ten in most rankings of research universities. But Yale
remains much smaller in science than a lot of its rivals—Harvard, MIT, Cornell.
How did you decide what direction to take?
L: Being in the top
ten is not good enough. Our first step was to develop a plan for better
facilities, to help us attract the most outstanding faculty. There was an
attitude that we couldn't compete effectively with MIT and Stanford. So we took
the position: let's go for the best, and let's provide the facilities to make
that possible. We have built five new laboratory buildings for science,
engineering, and medical research since 2000, and with the recent acquisition
of the West Campus, we are poised to advance Yale science well beyond what we
imagined a decade ago.
Y: How far do you
think Yale has come?
L: We're getting
there. Some of our departments have strengthened considerably; for example,
MCDB [molecular, cellular, and developmental biology] has been very successful
at recruiting outstanding younger faculty.
It will take some
time to get all of the science departments into the top five among their peers,
where the majority of our humanities and social science departments and almost
all of our professional schools rank. It could take 15 more years, but we are
on course.
Y: One problem you
didn't mention in your SOM speech was Yale's relationships with its unions.
L: That has been
another slow, steady march to progress. Early in my presidency, as our
contracts came up for renewal [in 1996], I approached the union leadership and
said, let's bury the hatchet. Let's bring in consultants and try to develop a
different way of interacting. They were not interested, and they wanted to
fight.
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"Our relationship with the unions today is better than in all my years here."
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As the next contract
negotiation approached, I proposed a peace treaty again. It took a long time
for the unions to embrace it. But the contract that was finally executed in September
2003 built in opportunities to mend relationships by creating more
collaborative committees and structures. And we gave ourselves a long time—an
eight-year contract. These were both good outcomes. At the leadership level,
our relationship with the unions today is better than in all my years here. But
it may take some time for the new spirit of collaboration that exists at the
leadership level to spread through the ranks of management and the unions.
Y: What about
problems you weren't aware of? For instance, soon after the government
announced the audit [of Yale's grants, in June 2006], a high-level
administrator in finance retired, and you hired an expert in grants
administration. Had you overlooked a problem?
L: Prior to the
government investigation, some of our internal audits had produced evidence
that we were transferring too many charges from one grant to another, sometimes
months after the fact, sometimes without proper documentation. We did not find malfeasance—legitimate
expenses were charged. But our behavior was not always in compliance with
federal regulations. So we initiated a search for a new leader in grants
administration. Before we concluded the search, the government opened its
investigation. We reacted by completing the search, declaring that we would
move quickly to become model citizens and improve our practices, and following
through on that intention.
Y: If you were to
pick something of which you'd say, "I could have done this better," what would
that be?
L: The [Lee] Bass
gift [of $20 million for the study of Western civilization, which Yale returned
in 1995] remains the best example. I should have moved quickly to implement the
program Mr. Bass intended. Because the issue was complicated, I didn't deal
with it immediately. It was a good lesson. Subsequently, when there has been a
sign of trouble, I have been much more vigilant.
Y: In your SOM
speech, you said that a manager must set the goal and then say it over and over
again.
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"It is no mystery what the big objectives are."
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L: I am pretty clear
about communicating. It is no mystery what the big objectives are for the next
few years. Delivering on the new residential colleges and making them
successful. Using the West Campus to ratchet up even further the quality and
visibility of science at Yale. Intensifying our internationalization effort.
Making Yale a leader in environmental practice. And there are others, like
moving the School of Management to top-tier status.
Y: Aren't you an
extremely unusual person—being in this job for 15 years? This is a
round-the-clock job that takes you jetting around the world constantly. How do
you do it?
L: I have a lot of
stamina. [Laughs.] And I love my job—I encounter so many different kinds of
people and different kinds of challenges. I thrive on it.
Y: And if you had to
project your career path?
L: I think I'm on
the highest step. I used to wonder what would I do after this job. I don't
worry about it anymore. I wouldn't want to stay longer than people want me, but
at this point I think I'm still serving a useful purpose.
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